"I’m so confused. Some feminists say feminism is beneficial to both men and women and is about equality, other feminists say it’s not for men. How can both be true?!"
It must be nice, living in a world where you are so used to being catered to that it’s literally impossible to…
Missing the point so hilariously
Do elaborate, I’d love to hear what I apparently didn’t understand from your post.Edited the original post, but I guess not quickly enough.
No: I don’t mean “not centered around men”. I mean, not for men. As in not made for men, not catering to men, not for the use of men, etc.
“Not centered around men” sounds like men are still an important facet of feminism, still have an important place in it, and are still a high priority — like they’re secondary, instead of tertiary.
The fact is that feminism would still be important even if it did nothing for men. Because something that benefits half the population is hugely important. And the insistent laser focus on “well what can feminism do for ME, a man?” is gross and derailing and a huge waste of time.
Feminism is not actually confused on this subject. You just find it confusing because the idea is so far beyond your grasp.
We aren’t arguing about what you really meant. It’s contradictory to use the phrases “beneficial to both men and women” and “not for men” to explain the same movement. If you said “cats are a great pet for all types of households” yet turned around and claimed “cats are not for children”, people would think you’re a hypocrite. Why is this any different?
A lot of arguments against feminism are made by women who don’t align themselves with the movement. Is it still derailing and a waste of time if a woman is bringing up the argument, or do you just use that as an easy cop-out to shut up any man who dares to question your ideology? A movement which is supposed to be about gender equality will never be taken seriously if you insist on focusing 100% of your attention on women.
I don’t find the matter confusing. I’m well aware that modern-day feminism is a load of bullshit, which is proven when half of you are saying men are unnecessary to the movement while the other half encourage men to support it and imply that anyone who doesn’t identify as a feminist is misogynistic.